Aug 21, 2014|
Brewer fans are you having fun this season? Why are Brewers' fans so down on this team?
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That's restaurant on the greens this is the only state you know what -- sports fans -- Sports Radio 1215 WS has been. Sports Radio 1250 WSS 3 good morning and shot and wicket served up by Perkins restaurant and bakeries. Big shout out once again everybody welcome to participate in yesterday's eight the -- Perkins twelve to charity golf outing it was an incredible success. Let's say more about that coming up a little bit later Ronald talk to are badgering center -- were all once again at 815 in his usual spot CL Benny enjoyed. Ice time out at edgewood golf course yesterday in big bend. Oliver next packer training camp update coming up at 745. -- from -- -- ten minutes before that. It's -- Tim Allen jock and and I'm not gonna lumped him into this room but -- -- Tim obviously geared to him. After each delivered her game of the repeat as baseball -- -- And one of the things I just I I can't quite figure out and and may be. I don't know and I'm going to go on a limb and guess it's not just our listeners. And Brewers fans here in Milwaukee but for some reason. You bring -- a great point last -- I don't know what it is. The Brewers fans this year seemingly for what ever reason and even -- we -- them every day. From day one back -- -- the pitchers and catchers are reporting. Date -- deal Indiana game 162. He can't get too -- too low on each game you're you're really really can't and I know every game matters every game is important. But what is -- about this year where seemingly. If things are going it's it's kind of like a packer mentality a packer fan mentality whereas if the if the Brewers win it's like. Alright cool when you talk about it but the Brewers lose. Then all of a sudden. -- were freaking out. Tennis in the some mild excitement the fifteen gives of the 500 mile would -- win. But man they lose a game -- finger pointing and blaming and there's a couple of guys -- team -- just lightning rods. Sit in the stands couple weeks ago and that -- Brian Brohm goes on as a base -- OK we are great base that. But he does something wrong and then you hear from some people sitting back you up. Areas the steroid cheat can't. Can't you know can hit the ball -- I just. I I don't get it it's like -- lose. There all of a sudden is you know just. Pandemonium. And every -- our stuff freak out I mean it's just that. They have been -- win it's like OK call it's like you'll want to -- funny. He can go up their pitching great game all great you know nobody got the but -- -- it's rocked. There's a couple of -- -- same -- you know I think you always in your favor lighting rod. On who's the biggest lighting run in -- routine I think at a -- right right it's a you'll funny -- -- a lightning rod always and right brought his start. For the most part. I -- that you know we we were not getting in debate about right brawn but for the most part the guys those guys have played OK this year there's a couple of guys -- -- the it'll. Cool to have a bad deal for strikeout team like promise rumors you hear -- -- -- lightning rod now. He never -- but boy if spot Ricky goes out there and -- four times you'll hear about it like -- like Garner FaceBook page RA mean. -- from. Yesterday. Milwaukee splits to -- Toronto Blue Jays number survive repeat as baseball post game show on twelve -- DWS has been all right. That's that's -- all the post says. Get the Brewers lost to -- to -- good two pretty good Toronto team and as a team that can hit and got hitters up and down their lineup when a knuckle balls -- -- -- -- to -- RA -- -- -- is enough offensively -- -- to win but. But they lost a baseball game and lost 1162. They lost half of the series. Do. You don't do it to Toronto and here's a reaction. From frank. It's one game with the Zach Duke experiment needs to end the -- Have you been watching Zach Duke this year has been pretty good he's been glory -- -- out. Show me a couple middle relievers -- rather have than what Zach Duke Duke is on this year Brewers lose 95 Darren rights not playoff -- week. Lost a game they just for the playoff -- the night before they beat Toronto and won five in a row eggs and that support is it. How quickly Brewers fans. How quickly you forget. Did the Brewers -- just swept to. LA. And shoehorn that I'm sorry obligated that sweep with a win over Chicago on the road -- that a win over these Blue Jays. The good people or you would think this -- at five point -- you would think this team's twelve games under with these people around that out of the race and but. Man fifteen under. Not many times by lifetime might. Is a great to go to Miller Park -- in August is approaching Labor Day here. And it's -- kind of team have been watching all my life first place. So what -- -- restraints why does everything so extreme with you these days. 4147991250. It'll be really nice to see who owns up to being an extremist because people listen -- who lives and dies with every single game because people going to -- people. Twenty games this 42000 out there on a Tuesday night no promotion. To false. 2000 on Tuesday night. And it's like OK people are going to games people are big unit -- -- parcel negative about the team in -- year you're right you would if you listen to callers. You know after a loss. You would think this team dropped twelve games in a row and can't get out of -- own way. Mean they just won five straight. -- mean you tell me to great baseball town I've been learning them the last seven years what a great baseball town this is. Baseball fans and should know that you're not going to win -- every game. You're -- if -- a hundred times. Which is it if you -- a hundred times what the great seasons in baseball history of Major League 100 win teams if you win a hundred times. You're gonna lose 62. Will -- Mike remembering 2011. Here are sitting on the show when they won the 9596 games -- was him. I don't remembers much negativity back didn't I don't think -- I don't know. I mean is it like me because. You know on TV. We talk politics. It's an extremist either way we -- a lot -- hate whatever is going on in Washington. And we adopted that. Extremist mentality here in Milwaukee you either love or hate or everything is great or awful I mean. If if that is the case there's one person to blame for the everything is great -- is horrible. And this guy really hasn't been been using that mentality to it this year as Sparky and Sparky as a sport old school -- mentality where everything is either greats. Or everything is crap. And I don't understand. How how an educated baseball fan base like Milwaukee can't have those fans. Triumphantly -- boasting about how -- Broderick he should be fired and after a loss and and and burying your head Desantis a quiet after a win but -- it seems like it's so much more on the negative into this -- your team. Then any of maybe winning team in our state there -- first. There's been times you know the Packers have -- up and down seasons and are you the winning seasons and in six seasons. Where I even heard of negativity at all right. But at what is that what are are -- a packer fans in this state and we just more apt to understanding. The long jeopardy of a football season. And that's the case are we now understand the longevity -- baseball -- and where in football every loss this court and that does not baseball but of football you're right -- sixty game schedule but he baseball. You know you lose a game and as the site needs. What is it with the extreme. Brewers fans this year what when this happened I eat but I think what you said -- -- -- people like all right -- when the game. But when they lose it's like. -- -- Or 47991254147. -- 91250. -- -- Brookfield is our leadoff hitter Peter you're on Sports Radio twelfth at the wire -- -- so extreme in when he fourteen. I think I got the answer here here it's extra things it's it's the Brewers you know have a history of -- You know I mean they're not in the past what fifteen. Yeah I mean you're you're right about go to five years or not exactly the most successful Major League franchise -- there aren't close. So we're kind of waiting for that I think a lot -- and I'm glad I'm the most apologetic books and there -- good. There yesterday actually -- and a lot of the lot I get that but I think a lot of people you know just are waiting for that -- to drop and then. Kind of where you -- hearing it more on social media -- called things like that. I think this is the prevailing attitude -- people don't have a need to be right and it just it just puts. Sparky it's -- exactly -- just want to rewrite all the time and you knew they'd be people wanna be like -- told you I would on socially I told you line. You know you know July 15 that there were they were crap. And -- -- and the -- network started they won a point to spare time in the in the in you know in the -- say I told these guys gonna about it and they don't want to -- -- you know so I think that the combination of those two things and -- -- like the exact. You'd like he's the epitome of that of that descriptions so I -- so I'll let you get by whoever that side I was. Reshape it and I hear all this about the long suffering Kansas City royal fan. I mean if people think that the Royals never had a winning season ever and a -- -- since the bowl seasons 85 but there was a time. The seventies and into the eighties they had a run there when they're always a post season and I was like -- the morals are here again winning another. American League west division title and and go on to the playoffs and maybe lose of the Yankees but. About the Brewers -- two divisions in two division titles and 45 years. I think -- -- saying is right I think there are some -- air quote fans. That would rather see the team lose. And be right -- called it then see the team win. -- say that again I think there are Brewers fans out there that would rather see the team lose but be -- and let their friends know they were rights. That they said they weren't gonna make the playoffs or that they were gonna win the division or whatever. Then see either team actually and they get more joy out of being -- -- then actually watched their team be success -- yarder early sense that. I don't know about -- but if I don't they don't win the division Mike there's going to be a lot of people senate -- I knew they find a way to blow it. I know it got -- -- like the the fan in Major League. You mean what's the -- name Randy -- in Major League and you know the guy -- now the outfield him another terrible -- -- -- -- -- -- very and he said I told -- always had -- I'll go to the opponents coming up 414799125010. John you'll be our lead off hitters on the other side. What is it about Brewers fans -- so extreme this year. Someone figure it out tell -- second -- Sports Radio twelfth at the your calls next thing. We're playing really well I'm I'm really happy to see what's -- consistently from servicemen and bats really well again and the lineups getting deeper everybody's helping us and I think we have we have to be able to do that. Sports Radio twelve that the WS has -- morning jacket -- -- manager Ron -- you right there. Talking about the the offense. Ten hits five runs yesterday not enough for a small 95 and hear from Tim Allen. Odd coming up in just a bit he'll wrap it up -- -- last night's. I'll repeat as baseball post game show -- at 105% nine -- target score right. I don't was not fun right I thought our guys now hitting Perez got handed a 751 point must try to make a small Minnesota 9515 -- We're taking the calls -- now flown 47991254147991250. Talking about the other Brewers. -- want to know why -- Brewers fans just so extreme especially on the negative side these days. Or 147991254147991250. Get on the south side you're on Sports Radio 1250. I think there's one thing people remember about baseball is that you can't get too high when you win and you're -- it too low when you lose. I mean there are times when the Brewers what was it this year or they. Poignant governor's opener -- a ridiculous number we you know they're not gonna finish -- that paid. But then when they start to slide a little bit and that's when fans -- fans don't know and see where the -- -- -- that word or. Blame it I blame and -- the fact that everybody wants instant gratification now. Would go to mcdonalds and get whatever you want you should be able to get -- people -- -- it right through. Yeah I thought I thought -- Is this back enjoy the ride baseball is a game where. They called Yogi Bear you'll eat because -- sat there like a yogi and watch the game and they that he was just like one of these in and he would just watch. Everything that and that's the thing about baseball. Just sit back and you enjoy the game and you don't get out of hand I mean. I think personally got some of it is the fact that these people that that. Don't watch the games or don't listen to world and then Neifi see the score here this score and they get up that well. If you know what got you there. -- understand why. What happens when you think that that the pitching staff has held up so good this year and so finally have a plane to pick up. Are you really gonna feel bad about -- There are -- -- I mean that's the thing is I mean it's. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And yet when it blew a an NFL locker after a loss. Of it was a tough mood and -- but yeah and like the funeral. For some -- -- baseball. When a team lose a game like the blue -- clubhouse at minute when he got beat by the Brewers. You walk in there and you -- your pin drop but it's like these guys. I have lost my best friend but then you go back in -- the next day after victory and it's it's totally different for some reason is that mentality of baseball that every loss is just -- Well I mean obviously have -- you don't -- in their minutes after a loss a -- likes to lose -- that -- OK with that I mean if the Brewers lose out and expect Ryan brown and Ricky weeks to be up -- high five -- -- extreme you know that that's. But I hear they're going to be down and the good thing about baseball is and hopefully fans do this is -- bounce back up -- I just put this out on Twitter -- great comment appreciate it. But is -- a bunch what are. As I wrote -- the Brewers -- I want people to answer this and you know what. I'm make this is textbooks we got some some movie passes giveaway or make is our tech pulled it alright here you go here's a question for him. -- fans listen up. -- -- this year. -- giving a good time. -- -- -- your answer to 32961 chuck. This is really. -- the best part about any season whether it's football baseball basketball whatever it's a lot like life and you go through life. You have some highs and you have some -- and we all want by the time -- were taken from this earth. We all want to make sure we have a real good time right will be happy with the joy of whatever our personal championship will be. Don't -- are fans are relish an effective -- first place and enjoying this and the Sox nobody did it but it's true though it's just right it is almost likes. -- I'm telling -- I get the sense of this season's. Which is special see your so far been fifteen years no -- sawgrass but nobody's have a good time I think I've had that's the question -- fans are human fund tech's linemen are answered 32961 -- It's LE -- in your answer to three -- -- I don't -- -- taken try to be at first but he plays at this time and it the shoe is gonna drop and it's like there's so much negativity you know the best part of shot you can take three games often -- watched three games -- -- and I went camping and I didn't watch any of the three games in in LA I was I was -- about friends and western Wisconsin came -- -- yet they swept three games -- cool that's awesome. Immediate right back on the ride there and get right back -- for the Toronto series from day off today. Right back can't ever -- coming up tomorrow -- But a fun ride man enjoy it's I don't sense I think people are thanked him. Wins this ten game losing streak and hit. Just given an -- just an excuse -- dash ran it he's a good chance to like it until it's not a bad team and they're not in first place on what is today August 21. They're not it -- -- first place August when he first by accident. I'd also got a lucky I don't sense people think that this is a good -- for some reason. Brewers fans -- fun -- live in your answer to 32961 back to the phones 4147991250. Why -- Brewers fans so extremist this year. John and frankly -- on Sports Radio 1250. And -- John -- -- fans so extreme this year. But right amen to disagree with you guys I I -- there's -- certain knuckle heads in every fan day. Well we know that we didn't say it was only Milwaukee Borges talk about our fans here. A -- majority of -- -- aren't joy and so we were sit that the game Tuesday night and and we were talking about this and that but you know what we have a ten game lead estimation. This wouldn't see as one of the best -- all terror -- -- out there are a lot of mature terror our -- We lose the game like -- Friday night game we were at three weeks ago what what nobody -- one of the basket and that's been a pitcher that Iraq gave it up -- You could say -- you go to -- and drop we all walked out of their Shell shocked. But the bottom line and -- come to this realization. Is the Cardinals are -- they're going to be hanging -- Okay we have an opportunity. To to send Pittsburgh -- -- we -- we need to take care of business. Okay. But they're they're going to be they're going to be -- -- -- that -- part of that as we start topped that with such a good start. Nobody has given -- said he respects nobody saw that comic and we don't want to give it up and anything that brought -- from happening what we already. But -- career before he hit a stat book for the all star break. We all know we all at work will probably gonna go to the -- optional that we and they threatened that -- up a little bit and get a little emotional. But nobody get the ball or any respect -- on the -- -- -- There's no respect for the Brewers and and we -- to take pat respect and that means more ot but it means to other and -- I don't think our fans are given their team enough credit we talk talk Ali yeah I -- the national media okay. That's been forever and -- -- the organization doesn't deserve any of that attention because of how bad the -- for 45 years -- But they -- -- gives this team credit they appreciate the -- -- and maybe -- -- I -- I think you're right about that mean. You say all you fans like John and and you want sports center to lead off the Brewers net but -- about first place contenders. You want the breweries to be in that conversation and get -- national love that way everybody LA or Texas or New York can -- How about respecting your own ball club and not counting them out when there. You know three and eight to start the year. How about for once here's a crazy -- idea how this don't start a -- and Don club every year how prob gotten that -- how my -- back. You -- -- little credit I mean. -- all the national media says Robert -- he probably leading candidate. What Willie McGinest for manager of the year you know the two managers of the are going to be. Ned Yeltsin -- -- you think about that a big Marco south side you're on Sports Radio 1250. -- -- There weren't sort -- Beisel extremely -- I mean you like to captain of the extreme trained. -- I am and I'm really going to be because. It. Throughout -- married. Preteen years ago and every deviate team. You know I -- I can order -- There -- probably didn't do and Adam didn't -- -- -- one from left field to right field -- three -- Q -- -- Mark McGwire and all of inevitably -- went -- I don't know what I'm going to be WM. Let's -- -- -- park party do you. What does this have to do with your extreme. I what to do but it -- I'm Chuck -- -- -- and we don't. Lose in the eighties. And on top of that happening you expected them to do -- they need me. Absolutely dead beats -- it would with the organization and we put him out and it got out of it about a -- -- hope it will be. Sit there aren't we didn't expect to what -- different overdue because probably isn't it and I don't do it in Chicago. So don't typically every one. It -- about football. Championship. So that gives you the right to then just -- extreme because you haven't seen a title in your lifetime. I'm critical because it's like nobody expected to be where -- get a block in the national media. You know it I'm Tibet you know singled to -- we have to talk about it a -- -- -- You -- baseball fans in the city are educated and mark are you. Premier global even -- they are quite happy that. You're not answer my question once again let me ask you what -- do you think baseball fans are educated in the city. -- couldn't pick it -- great yeah unfortunately it's that. -- it. -- is not it is not a championship it's a failure you know that's what I take from -- market -- called up before and called them Coco -- -- -- you know Weaver is one guy and that team -- an issue but it's not. Now -- and we know Marco is some talk about extreme Brewers fans guess DiMarco is accountability extreme -- so those guys you know like to drink after games and all that but and I -- I -- call the 82 Brewers were told don't team. -- there were some guys probably who had enjoyed the white powder. That was -- saying it's acceptable that's part of what. In the eighties culture did you know virtually bring I was on a guy who might have an issue and maybe maybe -- your your fan -- that at Carolina in. -- -- calls coming up Brian Jerry. Mean right there. Trying to have a conversation. With the Brewers fan who's been a long suffering -- -- He -- the term -- doubt losers in talks about drunk driving and getting robbed. He's an extremist he's the person we're talking about. That's saying you can't be just want to know why is it's so much more extreme in 2014. Then it's ever Batman. Or 147991253. -- governor -- two minutes we'll start reading some your tweets don't forget about our text -- Spurs fans are you having fun this year -- -- be your team was playing pretty damn well. Ups and downs of baseball season and that. -- -- Darian took a 32961. Tim how little -- put up four in five minutes from my yesterday's repeat as baseball post game -- glad to have you on a Thursday on Sports Radio -- -- -- articles coming up. But 1250 Milwaukee sports report -- right. From the legends the field Sports Radio 1250 updates studio I'd check -- to visit legends of field in Greenfield on Saturday September 6 for hot hot Clinton picks this first. Public autograph signing for one until 215. After a split -- their two game series with Toronto -- a couple of leads yesterday in an eventual 95 loss to the Jays Toronto battered. -- pitching for a five run sixth inning starter Jimmy Nelson he took the law. Do a better job second third -- -- You to mix my pitches a pattern and put guys -- a -- -- Australia. Pittsburgh is here tomorrow Saint Louis -- team and a -- follow Cardinals wanted him last night. Meanwhile Pirates also won. Their six out Cincinnati is seven games. Our -- -- -- ten games out of first place a protest in Major League Baseball has been upheld for the first time since 1986 Giants protest at a rain shortened game. With the Cubs -- on Tuesday night. On the football. Some of the world experiments are -- away after two pre season games W -- -- b.s Mike Clemens reports. Remain the Packers reviewing film from the Rams game and their practice in pads the point after touchdown kick from the 33 experiment is over after two pre season games what did Mike McCarthy thank. They -- -- where you know. And off. It's a big process to do you get on the go from the fifteen to two point play it's it's something new entrants -- capable so forth but it's it's an adjustment period -- it happens like them. You know -- -- statistics have gone down a good 45%. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Brewers fans who was yesterday's -- MTV -- a first and always 414799. 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AJ before -- you go can you tell me two things first the ball are you having fun this year and to what Barber's fans so extreme in 2014. I -- it up but I am having fun though it's not really doing much from IRL. A column it's given don't work out. I think I can tell you -- on -- here. And probably respect I think that that actually are signed for barber and a because -- -- Because I believe what I watch the Brewers are on the -- -- state and mean every game I don't expect that I'm not yet. But I believe that they can't win every game and I expect them in every game. So when they don't because of the -- it's raining hair or all managerial gap. Or. Ten guys not having it at night. -- bat because I thought and expect there's -- net game when we don't. Epic that -- now I don't blonde you know all social media and rant rave like myself and on the outs. I think you throw -- throw fruit like chuck does have a -- so. -- -- -- And it's getting to the point where we expect -- in one don't -- at. I'm over the next day now they have it put it or they -- airports -- -- -- -- Arm but you know it's not that he does -- well -- then it mean bad game and I expect that. I think the vocal appreciated -- there's a difference yet doesn't you know you get. -- Kinsler goes up and gives up five runs that inning. Only just but -- -- RPI didn't get -- pissed off and all of them but I think it's not to deemed the game it's what it is is. To say that as people think in the -- Sox at this guy's terrible and there are not a very good team. It's just if that's what I Matta yeah of course. I'm gonna get ticked off they blew a three run lead in the ninth inning or throw things I get that has rocketed do that -- but on the opposite -- this teams sucks because they don't are good they don't -- no we don't have fifteen over Jerry and debut year on Sports Radio twelfth at the. Good morning -- and yeah I'm I'm extremely happy that the Brewers are doing well this year. And it's usually that there are really good thing I would like about the Brewers. Is that when they -- big game like they did yesterday. All. They haven't kept giving up a script it did not let it get to a and they come back but not like in previous years they go on the scale stepped. You know that could lose a game like -- It's well it's a radical as far as opera fans are concerned. I think most of them are great but hasn't won Carriker wouldn't go on that MLB and read my arm got Kobe whatever -- Deborah. As we wrap up the beginning -- -- -- they can't match. -- -- -- -- -- Who and what about -- -- you want. I don't bring it out Lou it's great that they were a bit -- that it had to do it repaired to local book. Although the group with political -- brought. He's -- a pathetic player he lied and cheated in the past move on. Yeah. -- and I -- -- -- him admitted that guys you know that guy's gonna get but there are people like that and Jerry appreciate the call. There are people like that that will never ever forgive -- wrong that no matter what he does he could go. You know get to a drug test every day for the next 162 games the next ten years. And hit 312 with a 114 RBI and knock in 35 homers and be completely clean. And got guys like that and we see him and -- -- an -- reached up and people like that. It doesn't matter no matter what those people will never ever forgive -- run -- their choice and that's fine. Just a pathetic -- angry life to live in my opinion -- because of that -- he's become a -- rod. Yeah -- like to absolutely because because of what have. I'm last year because in the past have Brett available for Forte are also the three double plays in the game he's -- give breweries and active people -- stadiums are members say it's he's what's the deal. -- bring back the steroid -- is that a ballplayer and now that if -- has a bad day. There is a bunch of negativity it's a home run okay but it -- does -- bad. As a bad out thing you know doesn't hit the ball or whatever and there's just. A lot of head -- and he dragged -- frenzy under the mud that's why he can't hit really. Odd -- in May view -- on Sports Radio welteke. They doing they're doing all right. So extreme. Or personal let me say please don't judge Brewers -- based on that can be Markota. Media packet that you just completed Seattle and at this time and the other sure -- had called -- remaining -- Big mark it was an -- he is an extreme fan want to -- winner. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Any baseball -- -- any any. Sports and for that matter analysts on the radio to -- the same -- I mean would -- the fan is short for fanatic and that's the extreme I mean they are that that's normal I don't think there's -- that's passion for your team. But I wanted to play all these guys are asking about are you haven't on -- -- I'm Elena blast not to go out. Normally this time a year I would really be looking forward to the football but the. To be honest with you. Not even I'm not who were able to upon not -- you know it's important here I'm sort of -- baseball mode right now because this team was doing so. I don't even I couldn't couldn't hold off for another month and I wouldn't I would even care. I guarantee there's every major League City out there where teams in first place or a pennant race -- has got a football team. Baseball -- talking baseball right now you're probably right about that. We've got your next packer training camp report speaking of which coming your way in two minutes here on Sports Radio 1250. Sound off on the extreme Brewers fans on the John Paul's Buick DMC twelve -- sound off like 4482162. Policy -- a couple of tweaks to get to lots of stuff on social media. Why are Brewers fans so extreme this season it. Policy and this is from the PG three on Twitter says -- you're not having fun you are having a problem October here we come hash tag crew in October. This is from JKL 001. Brewers fans don't have any practice of being in first place or following a team that is in first place. Well mean most were fans -- but they're packer fans and they're generally in first place -- -- -- that that's -- -- to about it with packer. You know packer fans what's can -- -- the Packers ever go through a few six and ten. Five and eleven seasons like most of the field teams -- would if they turn -- every other team in the NFL well you look at. Everybody was -- one knows the Brewers have been losers from most of their. Most of their stay here on the Packers last 22 years have been mostly winners 90% of the time Kevin these rights on Twitter at like wicket he says really enjoying this usually I'm getting ready to watch football I refused to stop watching the Brewers. Brew city chaser writes on Twitter at Mike wicket. 100% having fun by far the most exciting season to date this is a better team -- win the one we enjoyed. In 2011 if they don't win the division Mike does have people out -- -- well you know what and I knew it I knew it I knew they were gonna win it. And and again that goes back to my point that some people would rather be. Correct about the team as they predicted back in April losing it. As opposed to the excitement they would get their team winning medal play that's weird and say well that's what you're excited about -- I knew it out and -- -- -- knew Elena. There were a bullet Bob wood -- writes on Twitter at Mike -- he says first place for 95% of the season. Of course it's -- and expectations were so high after April. That's why everyone is extreme. Well we're on our -- -- they are you haven't fun this year Brewers fans -- live in your answer to 32961. -- -- 414 if you're not enjoying it what's the alternative last year was the worst in franchise history would you like to go back to that shot up and enjoy the ride. Let's see here. Jeff and -- one says. Having a great season 138 days in first place thanks Hank that's in the nineties -- gladly that's right this is all due to -- the doc. Always the depth the great thing about this -- success. 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This 1215 green and -- training camp update crunch do you -- paper machinery corporation in -- -- here is -- Clemens the Packers have their final practice today before tomorrow night's game against the Raiders here at Lambeau Field some tough decisions to be made -- tight end Brandon -- out for another week or two rookie -- -- -- was placed on injured reserve so it's likely that second year man -- -- -- will get his shot to play against Oakland in prime time Aaron Rodgers has. And they're -- a good job and he's a Smart guy behind him run his routes very crisply but -- -- over the right time and I think you can. He's doing everything in his severely limits stole -- out of Ohio State -- -- having this opportunity has affected him as a player. It makes you work harder makes you fight forever but also sometimes it is you can -- -- your mind but you know if I don't make this play you know for the -- he has -- wrong thing and if you drop of -- I thought you might really get down on yourself because you know our competition's so tight you don't you can't really dropped -- make mistakes I think I think as always -- heightened our awareness and makes us all better players. Ted Thompson says with a roster cuts on the way it's getting quieter each day in the -- There's pressure Holmes does he Croshere. For themselves you know you've got to do -- intentional what they can you -- pressure from -- you know from the family's move her own. You know let those people so there's a whole lot -- this is real life and feel like it's appreciation towards your dorm. That's Packers GM Ted Thompson updates every day from Green Bay Mike Clemens WR SS -- this has been your twelve -- 1215 WSS -- Sports Radio 1250 WS says be good morning jockey -- 753. High today 8267. In. Partly cloudy out there right now no walking and badgering setter men were to will join us coming up at 815 in his usual spot. -- You know I don't hand out compliments our coworkers all that much -- -- or anybody well. Yeah it's accurate. Because the big joint related topic yesterday. -- and now. Who was on the show -- coach Allen was Tim Allen you know and you know of them didn't have -- official because the the group mostly -- -- really -- topic what did your thoughts on this. We always do the mount Rushmore game then you know every team is always on the mount Rushmore of staying or every city about whatever team it is -- You know -- the Packers mount Rushmore before. I think this was pretty interesting -- a good question. Now because this -- -- this doesn't I don't necessarily think pertain to too many teams in the National Football League because not too many teams in the NFL -- of edited -- longevity or they sustained success of the history. That the Brewers do. Is Charles Woodson on the mount Rushmore. Of the modern era Green Bay Packers would he be on the modern era packer mount -- -- because it needed it the entire packer mount Rushmore. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Vince is on there you can debate -- being on there I mean I'm obviously curly Lambeau after -- there. Mean. Bob Harlan Brett Favre -- New -- -- got asked the sixties. At the same time as a guy's article from the 1980 every -- key -- me I mean. So I would say that the lead in the modern era of the Green Bay Packers began in like say. 75. Hours that -- you know the debt and to think when things sort -- -- go south. -- well and Aaron well. B we could say after Lombardi left out cleanly seventy yourself yeah facility we -- we couldn't we could split the packer history or the two mount Rushmore -- like 980 to win. There was the bad years from seventy until 92 with a -- seniors. Well Ellison was like two years daily caller is the only seniors but if -- aggressive from 92 -- things got stepped up a couple of notches them. Bob -- took control -- -- hired -- Walton obviously brutal the rest is history let's say the martyr from 92 and yeah. Within the modern era of the Green Bay Packers -- -- from ninety to the -- years on dealers say that save from from 92 -- them. Would Charles Woodson beyond that modern -- call up packer mount rush hour without a doubt -- what Brett and Reggie. And -- no doubt Brett Reggie Woodson would -- Aaron. Yeah -- -- McCarthy thought -- I put those 40 okay. I put those for a right there is a very principles are the guys two out what -- I like this play is only -- top players only Mike I would -- -- for right there. Brett Reggie woods in an -- If you win and who -- NFL hall of -- -- You have to put -- -- now -- -- -- out -- -- and he still think of him as a -- right they -- on the national scene. We have some outstanding seasons here. Yet and for those who it was get this extreme question are this question -- should say about the extreme you know where resort they lied you know -- -- -- to go -- -- a packer -- -- a -- -- whenever you don't Wear a specific helmet. When you go and you just -- ugly yellow jacket. I'll tell you where -- you -- -- -- So I mean it was any question the guys had yesterday because there are not too many teams. Any NFL or in sports. Where you can split up between. Air a an Arab League yet have so but he just a great debate about it -- you look at. -- being here than 82 I'm Ian yet to players are gonna have their. Jersey retired from. The average you're ready and -- you have Brett in the what is it five jerseys of their that are retired on the on the -- of fame Oliver Jersey's retired the Bulls are -- automatics. I'm that mount Rushmore. Of what's in America -- any in the modern era and -- -- you know the last. 25 years. Charles Woodson is and that kind of an impact I think that's that's fair to say I'd say that as I'd say Reggie. -- Favre and -- and -- -- somebody it's a Donald Driver might be an image of the -- now maybe double. -- a good guy -- -- by the guys in the big show there's a big conversation on her FaceBook page anatomy strolled out check that one out. It's making the Green Bay Packers how much are they worth. Which are they worth compared everybody else. Will tell you the most valuable NFL franchise is and where the Packers rank coming up next on Sports Radio welteke.